martin mato shkruajti:Meqe interesi eshte kaq i rritur per historine errenjeve tona te perbashketa shpirterore dua qe te shtroj nje pyetje a kane vlere mitet per ditet e sotme?


A ka ndonje mendje ndokush?
Pershendetje te gjitheve Martini

Z. Martin Mato vertet qe lind kjo pyetje dhe nese me lejon kjo eshte pergjigjja:

Ne vleresimin e ketyre figurave duhet te marrim ne konsiderate se ato gjate shekujve nuk kane mbetur statike, por kane qene ne evolucion te vazhdueshem, madje per me shume shekuj jetojne si mbijetesa te cunguara te botes se lashte, po dhe te transformuara.
Ndoshta sot njihen me emrat , "e mira dhe e keqja"

Verejtja eshte shume me vend. ne kete rast do te duhet te bejme shume kujdes qe te jene jo larg njeri tjetrit tre faktore
1 veshja e fjales( pranon edhe trajta)
2. mjedisi
3. kuptimi
Dhe personalisht shtoj ketu egzistencen ne varjante
dhe fiksimin ne tekste pergjithsisht konservative ose dokumentime te hershme.
Mendoj se nuk eshte nje gje e thjeshte te germosh ne mitologji shqiptare.
Martin Mato

Sot zbulova nje faqe ne ndertim per mitologjine shqiptare ne anglisht

http://www.albanianmyth.org/mythology.html

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In Albanian mythology, Gjergj Elez Alia was a great warrior who had fought against enemies of all kinds. He had nine wounds on his body and lay suffering for nine years in his house and everybody had forgotten him. Only his sister took care for him night and day for nine years. Then news came that another enemy, Balozi i Zi (black knight) had come from the sea and was killing people and destroying villages every day. One day Gjergj felt some drops of water on his face and thought that his house had become so old that the rain was coming in. His sister told him that it was not the rain, but her tears on his face. She told him that Balozi had requested her and sooner or later would come to get her. Gjergj then told her to take his horse and make it ready for war, as he was going to fight against the horrible Baloz. He met Baloz the next day and had the fight; Gjergj was victorious. He returned home to his sister and as they hugged with joy, both their hearts stopped beating and they died instantly together. They were then buried in the same grave and the place was never forgotten. Everyone that passed by stopped to remember his great actions.

nuk jam shume dakort me te gjitha sa po fus por ne se nxisin deshiren per pjesemarrje le te jene aty

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Enji - He was the god of fire & war. He's equivalent in Greek & roman mythology might be Ares/Mars. He's equivalent in the Norse mythology is Thor. It is from this god that our week day e enjte (Thursday) comes from. This is interesting since Thursday in Germanic languages, is named after Thor/Thur, the god of war. Obviously, Enji must've been important to our people since we named a week day after him!

Prema - She was the goddess of fertility/birth. Her equivalent in the Greek mythology is Demeter. She is also honored with a week-day; e premte (friday). This is also interesting since the Germanic people have also named Friday after their fertility goddess, freya; examples are Freitag in German, Fredag in Scandinavian languages and Friday in the English language.

Anzotica - This was a goddess that in terms of belief, seems to have been restricted to the Illyrian tribe of the Liburnae. She's the Illyrian equivalent of Aphrodite/Venus! I believe that the middle of her name, Anzotica, is clearly connected with our word zot, god!

Ica/Ika - Another goddess of the Illyrians. I'm not quite sure what this goddess stood for. And could it be that her etymology is related to our word ika or ikje (flee or flight)?

Bindus - The god of water, the equivalent of Poseidon or Neptune. This god was especially worshipped by the Illyrians of the Iapod tribe (Japod?t).

Vidasus - Like Bindus, this Illyrian god was also the protector of water-sources. Apparently, he was always in company with the goddess of hunting (our equivalent to Artemis), Thana.

Thana - She was the goddess of hunting. I suspect that the etymology of her name is connected to our word tharje, i.e. withering, death. Afterall, hunting means death (of animals), so it wouldn't be surprising if that's where her name originates from. This, in turn, can be connected to the Greek word thanatos, death.

Dualos - The god/goddess of whine. It's clearly connected to our word dejur - to be drunk! This in turn, is of an old IE-root, since the word is also present in old Gothic, dwals, which has the same meaning as dejur!

Surd - The god of wheather. I'm just wildly speculating here, but wheather/wind equals to noice, and sometimes bad noice. Noice of high level in turn can make us deaf; could it be that it's from here that our word shurdh?r (deaf) stems from? We often use the term 'mos m? shurdho' when our ears hurts from an example, screaming ... ?? Or is it a Latin loan-word?

1. Djall
The Albanian name for the devil. Another name for the devil in Albanian is dreqi, from the Latin draco (dragon).


2. Bukuri e qiellit
Albanian name for the Christian God.


3. Ljubi
The Albanian demoness who will dry water courses in the land if no virgin is sacrificed to her.


4. En
Among the ancient Albanians the term for god in general, but also the name of the supreme god. The word en survived in enj?t?, the Albanian word for Thursday.


5. Kukuth
Ancient Albanian female demons of sickness who spread the plague. The spirit of a deceased miser, who cannot find rest, and who does much evil, is also called Kukuth.


6. Ora
An Albanian protective spirit. Every person is assigned an Ora at birth. Those who are courageous and diligent have one with a white face. Those who are cowardly and lazy have an Ora with a black face.


7. Fatit
South-Albanian female deities of destiny, similar to the Greek Moirae. These three goddesses appear at the cradle, on the third day after the birth of a child, to determine the child's fate.


8. Stihi
A female demon in south Albanian belief. She is represented as a fire-breathing dragon guarding a treasure.


9. Perendi
The Albanian thunder god of Illyrian origin. He is the consort of Prende, the goddess of love. Perendi is identical with the Lithuanian Perkunas and the Latvian Perkons.


10. Perit
In Albanian folklore, they are female mountain deities of great beauty. They are dressed entirely in white and are regarded as good fairies. They can become very angry towards those who spill bread, and will give these sinners a hump.

11. Verbti
The ancient Albanian god of fire and the northern wind whose name means "the blind one". Although he cannot see, his hearing is absolutely perfect. He has an aversion of obscene language and dirty business. With the advent of Christianization he was reduced to a demon who causes blindness.


12. Kulshedra
A different name for dragon-like creature Bolla from Albanian folklore.


13. Vitore
A good Albanian household spirit who, in the shape of a small snake, lives in the walls of the house. With a soft whistling it announces both pleasant as well as sad events.


14. Xindhi
The Xindhi are, in Albanian folklore, elves or elfish creatures. Their approaching is accompanied by the creaking of a door or the flickering of a flame. The Xindhi are the male spirits and the Xindha are the female spirits. They are known to be sometimes friendly and helpful, but more often they are cruel to humans.


15. Bukura e dheut
A beautiful fairy among the ancient Albanians who is always very helpful. The supreme god Tomor is her lover. She is sometimes connected with the underworld and shows some demonical aspects. Her name means "the beauty of the earth". Her sister is Bukura e detit, and her name means "the beauty of the sea".


16. Tomor
The supreme god of the ancient Albanians, from Illyrian origin. He is the father of all the gods and humans and lover of the beautiful goddess Bukura e dheut. The winds are his servants. He is also known as Baba Tomor.


17. Prende
Goddess of love worshipped by the ancient Illyrians and, later, the Albanians. The wife of Perendi, the Illyrian thunder-god, Prende is referred to in folktales and legends as the "queen of beauty" (zoja e bukuris). After the Catholicization of the region, Prende was absorbed into the new church as a minor saint; as in pre-Christian days, her holy day always falls on a Friday.


18. Bolla
In ancient Albanian folklore, Bolla is a snake-like (or dragon-like) creature that sleeps throughout the entire year. On Saint George's Day, it will open its eyes and look into the world. A human unfortunate enough to be spotted by Bolla will be devoured instantly. At the end of a twelve-year cycle it mutates into another being, called Kulshedra. This creature is a horrible, fire-breathing dragon with nine tongues. Kulshedra is sometimes also represented as an enormous woman with a hairy body and hanging breasts. The monster can cause a shortage of water and it requires human sacrifices to propitiate it. The creature is also known as Bullar in south Albania.

Ju falemenderit shume Martin Mato. Thank you so much for telling some about the Albanian mythology in english as well. I have always been fascinated by the mythologys. Special since I come from the north, Scandinavia which has lots of mythology of the viking era. I did check out the link you shared with us.
Mythology is fascinating because so much of our origin comes from there.

Hi Annika
cann you translate in your language a article from me ?

I can sand you the german and one shorter english of corse one albanian version.

greeting Martini

martin mato shkruajti:Hi Annika
cann you translate in your language a article from me ?

I can sand you the german and one shorter english of corse one albanian version.

greeting Martini

yes i can help you with that Martin.

jam gabim apo nuk me kujtohet mire a shfaqet gjarpri ne ndonje version te legjendes se Gjergj Elez Alise duke i lepire plaget
pershendetje martin mato

Zoti Martin me aq sa me kujtohet permendet gjarpri tek Legjenda e Gjergj Elez Alise, por kam bindjen se gjarper eshte thene per te nenkuptuar Bajlozin e Zi."Ma gjeni Gjarprin!"

Arla
Diku gjarperi shfaqet duke i lepire plaget heroit te plagosur ose ne epoas ose tek Gjergj elez Alia.

Nuk me kujtohet se ku!!!!
Por me duket se po gjej nje nyje per zberthimin e tij si figure dhe me duhet ta lexoj me patjeter.

Kush me ndihmon dot.
Martini

martin mato shkruajti:Ketu ne krah te forumit ndodhet nje burre me lahute ne dore

E kujt eshte fotografia dhe kush eshte

Martini

Eshte nje foto e huazuar nga galeria shqipetare duhet te jete nga zona e Malsise Kosove do te kerkoj me shume dhe te gjej emrin dhe prejardhjen e fotos